Kahr P-Series Pistol

 



Specifications

Style Compact Pistol
Frame Textured polymer, Matte stainless steel slide
Grips "
Caliber 9mm / .40 SW / .45 ACP
Capacity 6/7 rounds
Weight
15.8 oz (448 g)
Length 5.8 inches (14.7 cm)
Barrel 3.5 inches (8.9 cm)
1-10 right-hand twis
Trigger DAO
Sights Drift-adjustable, white bar-dot combat sights
Manufactured USA by Kahr Arms
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Kahr P-Series Reviews

     
112 Reviews

 

Arthur B. from Benton Harbor, MI on Mon, 13 Oct 2014

Re:My PM's 4th visit back to Kahr. 1. I load the gun as directed. As you said, it has to be loaded using the slide release. This information is in in the manual which I have followed religiously. 2. I have not taken apart the magazines. If the springs are put in up-side-down, the factory installed them that way. The bullets nose dive in both magazines that it came with. It is not predicable when it happens such as the first, second or third shot. Thanks for the information. However, I have gone through well over the 200 round break in period twice now with continued failure to feeds using all kinds of ammo. Other experienced shooters have used it with the same results. Nothing works. This firearm is just a lemon. The most expensive pistol I currently have but the least reliable. The good news is that I bought a Firestorm/Bersa 22 that has gone close to 2,500 rounds in the last month or so without a hitch. It only cost about $250. I'll get rid of the Kahr and buy three more Bersas with the cash. At least I can count on Bersa, Glock, Smith and Wesson, Ruger, etc. etc. etc.

Shawn Q. from Canton, TX on Sun, 12 Oct 2014

If this nose dive occurs on the 1st round [b]only[/b], I suspect you are releasing the slide slowly by hand. You should load the 1st round by using the slide release so that the slide moves forward smartly. If the nose dive begins on the 2nd round, your magazine spring is probably reversed. Disassemble the magazine. The end of the spring that mates with the base should be flat. The end of the spring that mates with the follower should be [b]angled upward[/b] (toward the muzzle end of the gun) – the same upward angle the cartridge needs to enter the feed ramp. If the spring was reversed, the leading edge of the spring will point downward – encouraging a nose-dive. You may also have a bad magazine spring or burrs on the inside wall of the magazine.

Arthur B. from Benton Harbor, MI on Fri, 10 Oct 2014

My PM9 has been sent back to the shop for it's 4th visit. They replaced the frame the last time and called it a "new" gun. Throughout the second break in period and afterwords, it had continued failures to feed. The ammo nose-dives instead of feeds making the mag extremely difficult to remove. I have never had a gun this unreliable. The black finish also scratches easily. If you buy one, get the stainless slide. Better yet, don't.

Javier F. from Beverly Hills, CA on Wed, 10 Sep 2014

just got my replacement recoil spring in it was the new version and had 15 coils...and the one i had has 13....took the new one to the range and fired 115gr pmc ....and had multiple failure to eject....called khar and they told me to trim down the sping with wire cutters a quarter of the coil at a time .....up tp 4 x if need...and to chech bt putting gun togetter and seeing if it locks back with out a problem.....i should not have to be doing this ....its a 700 dollar machine.....

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Mon, 8 Sep 2014

Thanks for the note, prana9. I have found my PM9 to be quite comfortable, easy to conceal. Yes, it's larger than a .380, but it also packs a bigger punch for not much more size/weight. I like the double action, though I find the pull to be a little long for my liking. I have to make sure to fire it at the range every time I go just to keep that in mind. As to the problems noted in the recent posts, I have found this weapon to be easy to use and pretty much flawless in action if the instructions are followed. I have also noticed that I can put one more round in the magazine, but it does cause malfunctions. My recommendation to those who can't get the gun to work is to sell it and find one you like. Life is entirely too short to spend it hating your own tools.

Javier F. from Beverly Hills, CA on Thu, 4 Sep 2014

i bought a pm9 all black about 1 mouth ago from the local gun shop and i got the first responded discount..i payed $700 with night sights...took it to the range and put 250 rounds through it with no problems.I takes some pratice to get use to the recoil and to get acurrate with this 9mm in such a small pakage .....few days later went to a outdoor rangeand was fireing the gun and the bolt from the recoil spring flew off while fireing it...i was so pissed off....because i could not find it....while looking a older guy asked me what happened to the gun when i told him...his answer was.......what do u expect from a khar...that made me more pissed.. Now while at range called khar and custmer service was okay .. the only thing that made me more made is that they dont next day they only ground ship ....this is on a thursday and i received it on the next friday...i put it in the gun and it is short....so i call khar customer service and they tell me that i must have the new recoil spring so they are going to send me another takes 5 days..... I have p2000sk in 357sig..glock 26...and with all the problems so far i love the pm9..the weight with a full clip about 16 ounces...and with cross breed holster u foget u have a gun on u......

Arthur B. from Benton Harbor, MI on Mon, 28 Jul 2014

I bought a PM a few months ago. So far, I had to return it to the manufacture three times due to failure to feed problems. The rounds nosedive and cause a jam so bad that the magazine is nearly impossible to remove. Throws brass in your face when it does fire. Kahr finally said that they would send me a "new" pistol. It turns out that they plan on sending me the same gun with a new frame and said that "technically, its a new gun." What BS. The black finish also scratches easily. Expensive gun but can be thrown at an assailant. Worthless otherwise. Buy a Glock 26 or 27. They always work.

Calvin B. from Euless, TX on Wed, 23 Jul 2014

I had a PM9 first, decided I wanted a bigger round - even if it meant a little less ammo. Just sold the PM9 to a childhood friend of mine yesterday. The PM45 isn't any less comfortable to carry than the PM9, it's barely larger in overall size. Either way, you can't go wrong - regardless of caliber.

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Wed, 23 Jul 2014

Happy shooting, brp79! I found that to be true for the PM9 as well. Long pull, but GREAT gun with wonderfully manageable recoil, EASY to conceal. Overall a great value, these!

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Wed, 23 Jul 2014

OK, I can see the reasons for the manufacture AND for the price difference. Thanks for that info!

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Tue, 22 Jul 2014

@motorcityfred, sounds like you have the right ideas! There will be loads of good times to be had with such a fine weapon. How is the CM9 different from the PM9?

Shawn Q. from Canton, TX on Mon, 21 Jul 2014

@motorcityfred: Most quality semi-autos new-out-of-the-box are tight – as they should be. This is primarily due to the strong tension of a new recoil spring. Secondly, a new semi-auto is not cleaned, lubricated and ready for use. You should field strip your weapon and clean out heavy factory grease used for gun storage and shipping. Lightly coat all [b]tight fitting friction points[/b] (such as slide rails/grooves) with a [b]high-quality synthetic lubricant[/b] (a gun grease like "TW-25B" by Mil-Comm) – not gun oil. Other parts that are non-friction points should be lightly coated with gun oil and wiped so that only a thin film of gun oil remains. Re-assemble your weapon and rack the slide a few times to distribute the lubricant. Rack the slide and [b]leave it locked back in the open position[/b] for about 10 minutes. This will help to relax some of the heavy tension out of the recoil spring. Repeat if necessary. The difficulty in racking the slide is more noticeable on small semi-autos because there is less slide surface and smaller slide serrations to grip. With use (normal wear) and attention to technique, you should notice a considerable improvement.

Bobby C. from Los Angeles, CA on Thu, 3 Jul 2014

I completely agree that the PM9 is one of the best carry guns out there. Mine is totally reliable (after the obligatory 200 rounds). I will gladly limit myself to a single stack mag in the interest of concealability. Size, weight are about ideal. My carry load is Corbon 124 gr +P. Generates about 430 ft lbs - getting up there with the big guys, and recoil isn't bad. Expensive ammo, but I run a mag or two through it periodically just to make sure I'm used to the difference between this and lesser practice loads. Couldn't be happier with it.

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Wed, 2 Jul 2014

Agreed, rickfrl. The PM9 has much to offer for the person who wishes to carry concealed. There are many guns that will fit the bill, but this one seems to cover more bases than most of the others. Love mine. My ONLY complaint is the limited ammo of a single stack. But that single stack is what makes it so concealable!

Phillip R. from Dorchester, MA on Wed, 2 Jul 2014

i have the PM9, and love this gun. 0 failures of any kind, and is a lot of fun to shoot. i bought a Kimber Solo, which was somethng i soon traded off, and replaced it with this Kahr. What a wise choice. If you are concidering a 9mm for CC and don't check out the PM9, you will be making a mistake.

Shawn Q. from Canton, TX on Mon, 3 Feb 2014

Plastic? You mean that funny stuff that enables gun makers to utilize stronger, more durable steel rails instead of aluminum frame rails to mate with the steel rails on the slide? That stuff used in the PM9 that has been stress tested beyond 25,000 rounds and counting? That hi-tech polymer with steel rails and a 10% longer barrel: (1) the PM9 is still shorter in length and lighter than the Solo; and (2) the longer barrel of the PM9 coupled with the Walther-made polygonal rifling delivers greater velocity, greater penetration and expansion of hollow point rounds – crucial to a sub-compact self defense pistol? Ya’ mean that polymer stuff? Tig's not gonna' like you dissin' his plastic Glocks. That's daring Diver -- carrying a cocked-and-locked Solo in your pocket – with dual ambidextrous safeties – the girls will marvel. Be sure to give us range reports, no other details necessary.

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Mon, 3 Feb 2014

LOL, points all well taken!

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Mon, 3 Feb 2014

Doriadiver, you must be a Kimber lover. I agree they are sweet guns and have not found any negatives that I would attribute to the gun. That being said, I have to say basically the same thing about the PM9. The two are extremely similar in size and weight, the Kahr being smaller in all dimensions, but only by small margins. There are several possible advantages with the Kimber, ambidextrous safety and slide release being the main things, but I'm not sure I would appreciate a single action on this gun. My reasoning for that is needing to carry it cocked and locked. With the Kahr, the double action precludes that need. Indeed, it has no thumb safety! The Kahr also has a small advantage in that its 2nd magazine carries an extra round, giving you that one extra chance. Both are well noted for accuracy, so I'm not sure this will make a difference in anything other than a protracted fight, where the whole point is to get out of Dodge or fight your way to your rifle. In either case, both are made by manufacturers with sterling reputations and both would be a joy to own and carry. Best of luck in this!

Bobby C. from Los Angeles, CA on Mon, 27 Jan 2014

Corbon +P's are my carry round. Expensive to make sure they function well, but but they pack a big punch - somewhere around 430 ft lbs of energy with high quality HPs. Practice is with much cheaper ammo. So far I've had no problems regarding reliability.

Justin M. from Fairmont, NC on Mon, 27 Jan 2014

Seems to work just fine in my PM9. Hornady is good stuff. I understand many like the Speer Gold Dot as well.

Kahr P-Series Questions & Comments

162 Comments

 

Neal E. from Dothan, AL on Fri, 5 Sep 2014

Hey, Khar Lovers, I have my pm9 now 4 or 5 years, never a malfunction (once I had to trigger 2 times); before I had the micro khar in full metall, also 9, every shut a success. I wouldnt use cal. 40 s&w oder in .45. My regard: the pistol is not very nice, not very small, a little too big (I would prefer the cal. .380), but a very good experience for me, really worth its weight in gold -

Wayne D. from Centralia, WA on Mon, 28 Jul 2014

There are a lot of people who swear by Kahr pistols. I had a guy try to sell me a P series pistol in 40 s&w. It looked really nice but it failed to feed every single shot. I just laughed and handed it back to him. For THAT kind of money I expect perfection.

Calvin B. from Euless, TX on Wed, 23 Jul 2014

Just an update: have about 300 more rounds through my PM45 since my original posting. No complaints at all, have been carrying it daily for two months now. Very light weight, and and shoots well. It takes a bit of getting used to the long trigger pull. But once you figure out where to place your finger on the trigger, it feels natural.

Lee S. from Jacksonville, FL on Wed, 23 Jul 2014

markej4801, the difference between pm9 and the cm9, is conventional rifling barrel,metal injection molded slide stop lever,simple engraving on the slide, fewer machining operations on the slide exterior,one 6 round magazine ,pinned in polymer front sight and about $230 dollars cheaper

Lee S. from Jacksonville, FL on Tue, 22 Jul 2014

SW-Insured thanks for all your help you give me some great pointers once again thanks,I went to the range today with my new cm9 ran 200 rounds through her she starting to loose up now, this gun shoots great very accurate

Lee S. from Jacksonville, FL on Mon, 21 Jul 2014

Just got the new cm9 kahr today at a good price $425 boy is this baby tight it's hard to pull the slide back I went on kahr talk to find out some pointers on how to break this bad girl in I'm off to the range tomorrow to put 200 rounds through her I hope she loosen up

Calvin B. from Euless, TX on Mon, 28 Apr 2014

I picked up a PM45 a few months ago. So far I like it, very close in size to my PM9. I had one bad jam, reload ammo made by a good friend of mine. I want to put about 200 more rounds through it before I carry it. FWIW, I used the rest of the reloads in my HK. (aprox 300 rnds) Not one hiccup. I think the short feed ramp of the PM45 dictates very exact ammo. I'll update how I feel about it after I have put at least 200 more rounds through it.

Bradley O. from Scottsdale, AZ on Mon, 28 Apr 2014

THE ABOVE WIDTH IS READS .94"--KAHR STATES IT AS .90"!

William H. from Minneapolis, MN on Mon, 14 Apr 2014

My new Kahr PM9 with the slide lock and loaded chamber indicator continuously failed to chamber a round as I was breaking it in. The owners manual suggests it takes about 200 rounds to break it in due to the close tolerances from the factory. 500 rounds later it was still continuing to jam, usually when the second round was trying to feed. Upon close examination the top of the barrel breech was coming in contact with the slide because part of the barrel was protruding just enough to catch the slide and restrict it's movement. It's on the way back to the factory for repair. When it did function properly it was a pleasure to shoot and was very accurate considering it's size.

Douglas I. from Omaha, NE on Fri, 7 Mar 2014

Got rid of my PM9...Great to carry! Just didn't like to shoot it. Rather short experiment but managed to get what I paid, added 2 Benjamins and picked up a lightly used Kimber Pro Carry. Make that trade every day of the week.........

Gerald F. from Brooklyn, MD on Wed, 26 Feb 2014

Well, my PM40 broke a magazine follower this morning. The pistol never malfunctioned, but when loading one of my three magazines, I could not get the 2nd round in. The follower would not depress. I discovered the "anti-tilt" portion at the front of the follower had broken off and was allowing the follower to go too far forward in the mag. I could manipulate the follower to get the rest of the rounds loaded, and went through 4 more magazines full. Worked okay, but I was not happy. Called Kahr, and after a minor grilling, they are sending me a new follower. I mentioned I had read several other posts on here and other sites alluding to broken PM40 followers. Of course he couldn't actually admit that such a thing was possible, just mumbled that I could have just got a defective one. (roll-eyes). Anyway, as I said, the pistol still functioned fine, and in a real-life scenario, I would have emptied that mag and put in a new full one, so not a life or death problem. Still love my PM40, even though it put another blood blister on my trigger finger this morning before I put on the glove. Chrono results this morning = 155 Winchester Ranger JHP - 1131 fps average = 443 ft/lbs muzzle energy. That's a lot of oompah in this little pocket rocket. Very confidence inspiring.

Douglas I. from Omaha, NE on Tue, 18 Feb 2014

Luckily (?) I can blame that kind of stuff on senior moments. Getting old is definitely NOT for sissies! No Blood, No Foul.

Gerald F. from Brooklyn, MD on Mon, 17 Feb 2014

I must have had a brain cramp in my post below. I have a K40 and CW40, not the K9 and CW9 I refer to. I hate it when I'm reminded I'm human.

Douglas I. from Omaha, NE on Wed, 5 Feb 2014

Experienced the exact same issues with difficulty to diaassemble and blister on my trigger finger from recoil. LMAO!!! I was ashamed to mention the blister also.....That's pretty funny. But it sure does shoot nice.

Gerald F. from Brooklyn, MD on Wed, 5 Feb 2014

My newly acquired PM40 had no malfunctions inside the first 200 rounds, but was really tight, and difficult to disassemble/assemble. It now has close to 300 rounds of 165 grain FMJ/155 grain JHP though it, still with no malfunctions, and disassembles as easily as my K9 and CW9. I've been examining the followers in my 3 magazines for any sign of damage as reported by some users, but don't see any. Love this little guy. It draws from a pocket very nicely. I use a Blackhawk #1 pocket holster. It's over now, but I was unable to get more than 120 rounds out of it the first range session as the substantial recoil wore a hole in my trigger finger from the trigger guard, and another one on the base of my thumb from the (drawing a blank, let's call it the rear of the pistol. Ashamed to admit that the next session, and to get past 200 rounds, I pre-applied bandaids to those areas. Helped a lot. I think most of the damage was done with the shorter magazine, where only 2 fingers get a grip on the pistol. The magazines with the extended baseplate, where I can get a 3 fingered grip, handles recoil better at the range. That's okay, I bought it for power. I'll never notice that recoil if I have to use it for it's intended purpose. It's not a range gun, it's a save-my-life gun. Based on mine, I highly recommend it. Come to think of it, I have never had a malfunction of any type in any of my 3 Kahrs that was not my fault. I did put the recoil spring in backwards on my first one, the K40 once, and caused a malfunction when the recoil spring ended up protruding from the front of the slide. Never did that again.

Douglas I. from Omaha, NE on Tue, 4 Feb 2014

Wow! Bummer. Really enjoyed our little Beretta gripe sessions. I'm sure we'll run into each other at one of our SW Florida Gun Shows.

Shawn Q. from Canton, TX on Tue, 4 Feb 2014

diver: Just found the below link partial message in Tig's profile, but the link has been disabled. If true, a tremendous loss to the forum. (130) 1/14/2011 -- "This Moderator was given his walking papers today! I tried to represent you all and my ..."

Neal E. from Dothan, AL on Tue, 4 Feb 2014

I`m sorry, I read about some terrible incidents. And for markej, added: I got some more mags for every device, which always do well, isn`t it?

Douglas I. from Omaha, NE on Mon, 3 Feb 2014

No Prana, it is not so bad, though they have taken to shooting a lot of Police Officers of late. For the most part, we just enjoy putting a few rounds downrange just like yourself. Happy shooting!

Neal E. from Dothan, AL on Mon, 3 Feb 2014

Anyway it is great to get the American guns here. Except for the PM9 I still own - only because I have the hunting qualification!!! - the guardian .32 acp, that works now, a "never walk alone"; a stainless revolv S&W in 357 mag, that weights only 380 gramms; and for the shooting "club" a Sig Sauer stainless for the 25 meter-accuracy, Nice Sunday

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